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  • Hell as an invention of the church

    Here is a sensible man who IMHO has a much better grasp of the mystery of God and his (I only use 'his' because of the constraints of the English language) relationship with human beings. Thing is, the kind of people who are dead certain (no pun intended) that there IS a Hell and anyone... more

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  • Rated by SMAX77 on Feb 22 2009, 1:02pm

    finally

  • Rated by InterestPolitics on Feb 01 2009, 1:24am

    Very interesting stuff. Hell was created to stop the weak minded from doing evil. The strong minded doesn't need hell to be moral.

  • Reviewed by kathlw on Jan 24 2009, 3:27am

    I think this is very thoughtful. We sometimes forget that Jesus was limited by his world-view from the moment he became human. As such, he wasn't able to interpret things in the same way we do now. We need to always be moving on in our understanding - with God's help.

  • Reviewed by TomUsher on Jan 11 2009, 8:55am

    Oh, I grew up with this stuff. Spong is not a Christian. He makes that very clear. He is an Episcopal bishop. His church does not unfrock him even though he speaks exactly against Jesus. You will not find God or join with God by following Spong's advice. Spong's talk is exactly the wide path. He's lost, and he's misleading. He is preaching the death of Jesus. What Jesus preached is definitely a yoke, but it's light in more ways than one. There is no system (including Spong's) that is not yoking. Jesus binds us to righteousness. That's God. Spong preaches humanism without Jesus. He wants to be "free" to do what he wants. What is it that he's concealing that he wants to be able to do that he should not? It's there. He wants to justify himself. He's rationalizing. He doesn't want to be crush by conscience. He's avoiding soul searching. He wants to hold himself up in his own mind as being more intelligent and better than Jesus so he may escape, he imagines, his sins without repentance. It can't be done. If you think he's made it, you've never known Jesus. That's for sure.

  • Rated by RevCathian on Jan 06 2009, 10:17pm

    He wears the collar of a cleric, but he essentially calls Jesus a liar. Let God be true and every man a liar.

  • Rated by lizedits on Dec 18 2008, 1:59am

    It's obvious that some stumblers didn't understand a word that was said in this video clip. The whole point is that we should not define ourselves as sinful and expect God, through Christ, to "redeem" us. That relieves us of all responsibility to strive toward transformation, and as the minister says in the video, this idea that only God can save us from ourselves is a notion that was consciously engendered by the church as a means of control over the populace. I believe we should focus on Christ's teachings and the way he lived his life. Now that I think about it, the fact that he lived righteously despite knowing what was in store for him could well be the greatest message of all: Be strong in your search for grace...virtue...transformation...growth--no matter what life throws at you. Even the holiest of individuals can question...can have doubts. That's okay; just don't let your doubts cause you to give up. Keep striving anyway. That is the way to grace.

  • Rated by GreenHome on Dec 15 2008, 6:17pm

    Unfortunately, this man bases his idea of religion off of a stance that I would argue is not even the same the Christianity according to the Bible. The Bible does not argue for a system of merit like this man suggests. If you listen to the question the interviewer asks about 'accepting Jesus into your heart' suggests that where you go is not entire based upon a system of scales weighing your cons against your pros. The Bible also does not argue against being 'fully human' as this man suggests it would. It argues against being 'fully sinful'; like a person who willingly sought out selfishness, either in action or in the mind. I plead with you if you have heard what this man has to say and are willing to admit that you really haven't read the Bible yourself, then please look into. I have spent the last two years of my life diligently searching for the truth, whether I like it or not. I have wanted to find out the truth about God. I will not argue for any specific division of the church (even though most of the division still agree on many things). You're going to find foolish Christian just like you will find foolish atheists. I will agree with this man that the Bible and religion will steer you toward a relationship with God. That's all He (I use the term 'He' relatively) has ever really wanted with all of us. Please, seek the truth out, don't be afraid to question anything an everything. Be it Muslim, Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, any other spiritual thing, or atheism. I honestly believe that if you seek the truth, you will find the real God. He is right, God is not a Christian. The term for Christian means 'little Christ'. A title intended for humans. This system is only supposed to help us understand the mind of God. Our relationship with Him is more important than the religion based upon the words and actions of God.

  • Rated by DickBeldin on Dec 15 2008, 10:30am

    At last some publicity for common sense views of relgiion.

  • Reviewed by kalencki on Dec 11 2008, 12:03pm

    Bishop Spong has written several controversial books about religion, all with a refreshing new perspective on what we were told growing up. He is one of my favorite authors

  • Rated by Lilynia on Dec 05 2008, 7:33am

    This man's religious outlook is incredibly refreshing. Here's a Christian who is thinking for himself. If God really does exist, then I think this guy is closer to the truth than most other Christians.