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OliviaB rated 23 months ago - first image by horst p horst, 1932, from here
second image by the talented tina with thanks
a wonderful discussion on the page at the link
by some of the finest scientists of our time
BEYOND REDUCTIONISM: REINVENTING THE SACRED
From the page:
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 Janopus rated 2 months ago- BEYOND REDUCTIONISM [11.13.06]
Reinventing The Sacred
By Stuart A. Kauffman
The person I admire the most recommended this book to me, so I have to check it out. Before that I have to find a litmus test for a "reductionist". Such a notion to me is a little hard to grasp, but I don't spend a lot of time thinking about it. To anyone who thought I was smart, that blows it. I already wasted years trying to figure out what "phenomenology" is. I think I know. Still working on "theist" vs "deist". Maybe kazam will see this and bail me out. In the mean time, said book is probably worth checking out (hmmm ... that used to be what libraries were for ... maybe I should say "looking into"). English is beginning to let me down. I bought "The Quark and the Jaguar" by Murray Gell-Mann a long time ago, but it just didn't call out to me. Nevertheless, I'm impressed by all these guys that win Nobel prizes and have time to write books for us lesser mortals. I've got to get unglued from my computer and spend more time thinking and reading ... not here, however. Both Kauffman and Gell-Mann are on the faculty of the Santa Fe Institute. When I was in Santa Fe, all I saw was art, affluent tourists, and La Traviata. But St. Johns Univ is there, a rather novel institution too, so maybe there is some kind of weird vortex in that locality, its proximity to Los Alamos being a mere coincidence. -J http://www.santafe.edu/~mgm/mgmquark.html
 - sh0rtbus56 rated 10 months ago
- i could find no ideas here...bad
 DrBlizzardo rated 23 months ago- From the page: "In this scientific world view, we can ask: Is it more astonishing that a God created all that exists in six days, or that the natural processes of the creative universe have yielded galaxies, chemistry, life, agency, meaning, value, consciousness, culture without a Creator. In my mind and heart, the overwhelming answer is that the truth as best we know it, that all arose with no Creator agent, all on its wondrous own, is so awesome and stunning that it is God enough for me and I hope much of humankind."
Well....hmmm....
 OliviaB rated 23 months ago- first image by horst p horst, 1932, from here
second image by the talented tina with thanks
a wonderful discussion on the page at the link
by some of the finest scientists of our time
BEYOND REDUCTIONISM: REINVENTING THE SACRED
From the page:
I would like to begin a discussion about the first glimmerings of a new scientific world view -- beyond reductionism to emergence and radical creativity in the biosphere and human world. This emerging view finds a natural scientific place for value and ethics, and places us as co-creators of the enormous web of emerging complexity that is the evolving biosphere and human economics and culture. In this scientific world view, we can ask: Is it more astonishing that a God created all that exists in six days, or that the natural processes of the creative universe have yielded galaxies, chemistry, life, agency, meaning, value, consciousness, culture without a Creator. In my mind and heart, the overwhelming answer is that the truth as best we know it, that all arose with no Creator agent, all on its wondrous own, is so awesome and stunning that it is God enough for me and I hope much of humankind.
~ Stuart A. Kauffman ~
 laodan rated 23 months ago- BEYOND REDUCTIONISM: REINVENTING THE SACRED
in Edge by Stuart Kauffman.
I would like to begin a discussion about the first glimmerings of a new scientific worldview beyond reductionism to emergence and radical creativity in the biosphere and human world. This emerging view finds a natural scientific place for value and ethics, and places us as co-creators of the enormous web of emerging complexity that is the evolving biosphere and human economics and culture. In this scientific world view, we can ask: Is it more astonishing that a God created all that exists in six days, or that the natural processes of the creative universe have yielded galaxies, chemistry, life, agency, meaning, value, consciousness, culture without a Creator. In my mind and heart, the overwhelming answer is that the truth as best we know it, that all arose with no Creator agent, all on its wondrous own, is so awesome and stunning that it is God enough for me and I hope much of humankind.
BEYOND REDUCTIONISM: REINVENTING THE SACRED
Animist, religious, modern and now a new scientific worldview...
Worldviews have shaped our understanding and our seeing of what reality is all about. While science is a determinant factor of what is to come Kaufmann indicates that reducing science to rationalism fails to take into account the global encompassing dimension into which science should be place. But there are even other determinant factors at play: population and environmental shocks, globalization and the emergence of philosophic worldviews (China & India). Notwithstanding this Stuart Kauffman's approach is surely enlightening.
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