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 UsoDaNamu rated 6 months ago - Now this is funny.
Prof.: Daniel Dennett argues that religious people should be treated as drunk drivers:"It used to be the case that we tended to excuse drunk drivers when they crashed because they weren't entirely in control of their faculties at the time, but now we have wisely inver...
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- Joutilas rated 3 months ago
- From the page: "If religion isn't the greatest threat to rationality and scientific progress, what is? Perhaps alcohol, or television, or addictive video games. But although each of these scourges - mixed blessings, in fact - has the power to overwhelm our best judgment and cloud our critical faculties, religion has a feature of that none of them can boast: it doesn't just disable, it honours the disability. People are revered for their capacity to live in a dream world, to shield their minds from factual knowledge and make the major decisions of their lives by consulting voices in their heads that they call forth by rituals designed to intoxicate them."
- CommanderIsm rated 6 months ago
- religion is for weak and feeble minded individuals, they who want to be ruled by unscrupulous manipulators - that is any religion or faith - it (religion) been causing trouble war and strife for ages.
- ethanol9bio rated 4 months ago
- Any time the pro-religion side of these debates begins with Pascals wager, other even more idiotic, off-topic, disproved, and silly arguments will certainly follow. Such as this gem,
"But, oddly, the more we use science to explore nature, the more we find things we do not understand and cannot explain. In reality, both religion and science are expressions of man's uncertainty."
Which is kind of like saying that education causes ignorance because the more one learns, the more one realizes that there is more to learn. In total, religion is an intellectually bankrupt institution that THRIVES on ignorance--this is why religion hates science.
- UsoDaNamu rated 6 months ago
- Now this is funny.
Prof.: Daniel Dennett argues that religious people should be treated as drunk drivers:"It used to be the case that we tended to excuse drunk drivers when they crashed because they weren't entirely in control of their faculties at the time, but now we have wisely inverted that judgment, holding drunk drivers culpable for putting themselves in that position in the first place. ... and holding ... preachers and other apologists for religious zeal - as culpable as the bartenders and negligent hosts who usher dangerous drivers on to the highways. Our motto: Friends don't let friends steer their lives by religion." Lord Winston fails Hard by first using pascals wager, then talking about "Brights and believers" and then claims that Dennett doesn't know enough about religion because he is not a theologian, and therefore isn't capable of making judgement.He then shows that he thinks science is about "Dennett seems to believe science is "the truth" ... he conveys the notion that science is about a kind of certainty."He then suggest that Dennett should go read the book of Job, and uses that as a explanation for: "Where science fails"Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?" God asks Job where he was when He laid the foundations of the Earth? Do we understand where we come from, where we are going, or what lies beyond our planet?So because we weren't there when the universe began, we can't question god?FAIL!
- Emily-L rated 6 months ago
- From the page: "It used to be the case that we tended to excuse drunk drivers when they crashed because they weren't entirely in control of their faculties at the time, but now we have wisely inverted that judgment, holding drunk drivers doubly culpable for putting themselves in that irresponsible position in the first place. It is high time we inverted the public attitude about religion as well, finding all socially destructive acts of religious passion shameful, not honourable, and holding those who abet them - the preachers and other apologists for religious zeal - as culpable as the bartenders and negligent hosts who usher dangerous drivers on to the highways. Our motto should be: Friends don't let friends steer their lives by religion."
- lunaticprophet rated 4 months ago
- "If religion isn't the greatest threat to rationality and scientific progress, what is? Perhaps alcohol, or television, or addictive video games. But although each of these scourges - mixed blessings, in fact - has the power to overwhelm our best judgment and cloud our critical faculties, religion has a feature of that none of them can boast: it doesn't just disable, it honours the disability. People are revered for their capacity to live in a dream world, to shield their minds from factual knowledge and make the major decisions of their lives by consulting voices in their heads that they call forth by rituals designed to intoxicate them."
~ Daniel Dennett, "Is religion a threat to rationality and science?"
- htmlgecko rated 5 months ago
- I really enjoyed Dennett's argument, but it bothered me that he made a slightly "ad hominem" case at one point. Then I read Winston's side and... *smackforehead*
- sceptic rated 5 months ago
- Any peer who thinks that Pascal's Wager is a still a really clever argument against atheism should be stripped of their title and put in the stocks outside the House of Lords with a dunce's hat on. The dozy fuckwit.
- krebbe rated 6 months ago
- Not enough scientists appreciate the differences and the limitations of a widely accepted scientific model and a "truth". Science doesn't offer metaphysical truth (it can't by definition), it offers models that work and can create predictions.
Winston is a brilliant scientist and shows himself here to be a competent philosopher. I'm atheist, a chemistry graduate and as lacking spirituality as they come, but I find the dogmatic science fanboydom of most atheists to be embarrassing.
- induscrypt rated 6 months ago
- Ah, to reason with the unreasonable!
You become an atheist to cut off the clutter of mindlessness. But once you are an atheist you are supposed to know more about people's religion that they themselves care to ever learn.
It's a bait every atheist takes.
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