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laodan discovered 5 weeks ago- My Western Friends, What Do You Want From Us Chinese? in China Digital Times via China Herald.
(A Chinese response to the protests against the Olympic Games Torch Relay. The following text is quoted from cbc forums, via C'est la vie blog) What do you want from us? When we were called "The sick man of Asia", we were called peril, When you bill us the next superpower, we are called the threat. When we closed our doors, you smuggled drugs to open our markets, when we embrace free trade, you blame us for taking away your jobs. when we were falling apart, you marched in your troops and wanted your fair share, when we are putting the broken pieces together, "Free Tibet" you scream! "it was invasion". So we tried communism, you hated us for being communist, So we embraced capitalism, you hate us now for being capitalist. Then we have a billion people, you said we're destroying the planet, Then we limit our numbers, you say it is human rights abuses. When we were poor, you thought we were dogs, When we loan you cash, you blame us for your debts. When we build our industries, you call us polluters, When we sell you goods, you blame us for global warming, When we buy oil, you call that exploitation and genocide. When we were lost in chaos and rampage, you wanted the rule of law for us, When we uphold law and order against violence, you call that violation of human rights. When we were silent, you said you wanted us to have free speech, When we are silent no more, you say we are brainwashed. Why do you hate us so much? We ask. "No". You answer, "we don't hate you". We don't hate you either Bud, but do you understand us?? "of course we do", you say, "We have CNN, BBC, and CNBC". But why, do we still feel, you western people are not happy with us. What do you really want from us?? My friend, What do you really want from us?? My Western Friends, What Do You Want From Us Chinese? Ho, Ho! Hum.. I certainly understand what is being meant in this poem and I certainly also understand where the anger comes from that, rightly so, underpins those words. I fear that the Euro-centrism that animates so much of the Western discourse about democracy and human rights will not even permit or allow Westerners to hear what is pronounced in the words here above. But I nevertheless urge my white race-fellows to open their eyes, their ears and their minds and harts to what our yellow-race friends are asking us here. I humbly believe that we Westerners have no moral ground to stand on that would justify us to start lecturing others and especially the Chinese. On the contrary our history shows us that from the crusades on, passing through the great discoveries, then enslaving Africans and exploiting non Europeans along so many centuries we have killed and plundered on a scale never seen in human history. There is nothing in our historic behavior that could justify our present moral superiority; we should be ashamed of that history of ours. The proceeds of our plundering over so many centuries helped us to industrialize and modernize. But now that we impose on the whole world to follow us on the road of modernity we should remember that morality was never our stronghold and we should thus avoid lecturing those who only recently entered modernity. And we should also refrain from envy at the sight of the Chinese beating us at our own game. It's we Westerners who bullied them in following us into modernity.
- My Western Friends, What Do You Want From Us Chinese? in China Digital Times via China Herald.
- umanor rated 4 weeks ago
- I still think that China is scary shit, but I like the perspective this gives, so I'm thumbs-upping it. It kinda points out a lot of the hypocrisy of both the left and right, which is always cool with me...
- CynAmun rated 4 weeks ago
- CynAmun: I found this via Gavinski via Laodan. We all need to step back and take a deep breath. I believe China is wrong to take people's territory against the will of the people. However, as an European American, I have no moral high ground. ________________________________________________________________________ My Friends, What Do You Want From Us? In response to the protests against China Olympic Games, the following text is quoted from cbc forums, via C'est la vie blog: What do you want from us? When we were called "sick man of Asia", we were called peril. When we billed to be the next superpower, we're called the threat When we closed our doors, you smuggled drugs to open markets. when we embrace free trade, you blame us for taking away your jobs. when we're falling apart, you marched in your troops and wanted your fair share. when we're putting the broken pieces together, "Free Tibet" you screamed! "it was invasion." So we tried communism, you hated us for being communist. So we embraced capitalism, you hate us for being capitalist, Then we have a billion people, you said we're destroying the planet. Then we limit our numbers, you said it was human rights abuses. When we were poor, you think we're dogs, When we loan you cash, you blamed us for your debts. When we build our industries, you called us polluters. When we sell you goods, you blamed us for global warming, When we buy oil, you called that exploitation and genocide. When we were lost in chaos and rampage, you wanted rule s of laws for us. When we uphold law and order against violence, you called that violation of human rights. When we were silent, you said you want us to have free speech. When we were silent no more, you say we were brainwashed. Why do you hate us so much? We asked. "No". You answered, "we don't hate you". We don't hate you either Bud, do you understand us?? "of course we do", you said, "We have CNN, BBC, and CBC". But why, we still feel, your western people are not happy with us. What do you really want from us?? My friend, What do you really want from us??
- applznorngz rated 4 weeks ago
- An Excerpt: When we were called “sick man of Asia”, we were called peril. When we billed to be the next superpower, we’re called the threat When we closed our doors, you smuggled drugs to open markets. when we embrace free trade, you blame us for taking away your jobs. when we’re falling apart, you marched in your troops and wanted your fair share. when we’re putting the broken pieces together, “Free Tibet” you screamed! “it was invasion.” So we tried communism, you hated us for being communist. So we embraced capitalism, you hate us for being capitalist, Then we have a billion people, you said we’re destroying the planet. Then we limit our numbers, you said it was human rights abuses. When we were poor, you think we’re dogs, When we loan you cash, you blamed us for your debts. When we build our industries, you called us polluters. When we sell you goods, you blamed us for global warming, When we buy oil, you called that exploitation and genocide...." Commenting on this comment:"There is not one "West". The West is full of different views, agendas and intentions, more often than not contradicting themselves. This is what comes with pluralism. By Bjoern | April 13th, 2008 at 2:57 am" Me: I'm pretty sure that "China" embodies at least as many view and intentions withing her borders... Even though my agenda is different, as a US citizen, I have killed and displaced thousands of Iraqi people... Even though my intention is different, as a US citizen, I have caused more environmental damage than anyone else in the world. The fact that China has surpassed us in amount now, pales in comparison of per capita usage and waste that we do. And still we sleep...
- Bambooculm rated 5 weeks ago
- From the page: "In response to the protests against China Olympic Games, the following text is quoted from cbc forums, via Câ€est la vie blog"
