TylerMC/israel

Israel is an apartheid state. It's been one since its creation in 1948. Professor Gordon is quite brave to make this statement in the LA Times and the editors of the LA times should be commended for having the courage to print it. Both parties can expect to be attacked by the Israel Lobby over the next several weeks. May God give them strength to withstand it. Bravo!

And the vice continues to close. Israel is preparing to take all of Jerusalem and the West Bank. This is just one of many actions by that state since Obama took office to attempt to create facts on the ground.
Cook is an excellent journalist and one of the few western journalists living within a Palestinian city. Most western journalists are under tight control by Israel and live in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv.

I was speaking with a former Israeli intelligence person last week and we both agreed that we believe the end to Zionism will come in the next twenty years. He asked me "What do you think will signal the end?" I replied. "Parents sacrifice their lives for their children and then turn and sacrifice the lives of their children to the state. When the mothers on both sides decide they're tired of sacrificing their children for the state AND when the question becomes what is just rather than who is right or wrong, Zionism will end. The racist will return to their own countries and the good people on both sides will work together to build a new Israel that gives equal rights and equal opportunity to all."
I firmly believe that and I think that as more and more Jews realize that the actions of the state of Israel under the guise of Zionism which hides behind Judaism hurts not only them but their faith by turning it into something God never intended, more will protest. Judaism, as tasked to the Hebrews and Israelites was to be the light unto the world that demonstrated God's goodness and greatness. I don't believe He intended it to be the blowtorch of the world demonstrating the domain of evil, that of death, murder, destruction, theft and deception. Zionism does this. Judaism does not.

They really don't get it. The article he's referring to in the 'Hamas Charter' was written by a rogue member on his own initiative in 1988 and was soundly denounced by Hamas. The person was speaking for himself, not the organization. The actual charter of Hamas reads like the US Federalist Papers and no, they've never been about getting rid of Israel, just Zionism, which is racist as that movement considers faith first, then race, rather than humanity, to be the measure of a person's worth. To get rid of Israel would be against the religion and the only people who've 'wiped' anyone off the map is the Israelis. Golda Meir made it her mission in 1971 which is why Arab towns have been removed from most Israeli maps.
I agree, 8,000 is enough. What about the over 60,000 rounds, missiles and bombs Israel threw back at Gaza? Give me a break. The Palestinians aren't building walls on Israeli land. They haven't stole Israeli homes, businesses or passed laws that prevent Israelis from moving around, having equal rights or even owning property. The Palestinians don't man the checkpoints, have tanks, blockade the borders or arbitrarily arrest people, imprison Israeli children and worse. Israel's PR problem exists because of Israel's behavior, period. Very few people hate Israel or even Jews. What they hate is what Israel has done to Judaism and what Israel in the name of Judaism has done to them. No amount of slick PR can erase a lie or injustice. All it can do is postpone the inevitable: the end of Zionism and the beginning of new reality where in Israel all people are created and treated equally regardless of their race, religion or origin. The racists will leave when this happens and the good people on both sides will stay. I for one look forward to that day. It's been long enough.

The Zionists did not make the 'desert bloom', nor did they populate an empty land. What they did was ethnically cleanse the area of non-white people. This slide presentation shows the beauty of Palestine before the Zionists destroyed it. Enjoy.

Don't buy that it's the 'Democrats' telling Obama to 'ease up' on Israel. It's the Israel Lobby that supplies 50% of all funds to the Democratic Party (38% to the Republicans) telling him. Expect lots of 'Oh he's so mean to poor little Israel' and more fear mongering. Full court press will go something like this: ADL will come out and say anti-semitism is on the rise. AIPAC and other members of the lobby will begin seeding US papers with editorials denouncing Obama's stance as unreasonable. You'll see an increase in holocaust related programming in the US, (and mentions in the US media) and pro-Zionists groups will ratchet up the rhetoric within their camps. Fear will lead the day.
In the end, here's the deal. All Israeli settlements outside the green line are illegal and under the 4th Geneva Conventions every person who lives in them and every company that does business in or with these settlements is committing a war crime. Israel has a problem with settlements and the Palestinians because Israel chose to violate international law beginning in 1948. Israel chose to discriminate against the Palestinians and wipe them off the map beginning in 1948 and they made this part of their laws in 1950. Israel and Israel alone is the cause of its problems. Its policies created the strife, not the Arabs and it's these policies that have created the longest running occupation of the past 100 years. Obama is simply not allowing them to lie and cajole their way out of it anymore. And they don't like it.

Not too late Medea. This is what happens when the unjust face justice. Justice isn't about religion or race. All people know when something is good and something is bad. What we're witnessing with AIPAC and the increasing panic of Israel is the destruction of an unjust system. Give it time. They already know they've lost, But like Hitler's Germany and Stalin's Russia or even the KKK in the US, those who bank their entire purpose and belief system on injustice will escalate the horror in desperation. With each escalation, more and more people step over to the side of justice and say 'No More!'
This is how social change occurs. I give Israel, as an apartheid state, less than 20 more years. They cannot continue as such and the world won't let them. The land and the people will always exist but this system of hatred, genocide, segregation and racism will not. There are too many good people in Israel for it to continue. There are also plenty in Israel who don't care about non-Jews but deeply care about having their faith associated with racism and who will work to change things for selfish reasons. God works in mysterious ways and whether its shame, justice or empathy that motivates, in the end Zionism will fall. Ideas founded upon racism and injustice always do. It's a foregone conclusion and one of the few certainties of history. So no my dear, it is not too late for peace. But for unjust, their fate was written and confirmed by history thousands of years ago.

The requiring Palestinians and the rest of the world to recognize Israel as Jewish Only is the reason it can never happen.

In 1993 as part of the Oslo peace process, Palestinians and the Arab nations did recognize Israel's existence. To clarify, they recognized a political entity referred to as a nation state. As to rights, no nation state has a right to exist. If they did, then Stalin's Soviet Union and Hitler's Third Reich would have to be reinstituted and preserved. Nation states are man made and have only been in existence since the fifteenth century making this issue, a non-issue. Its purpose is to force Palestinians to quit all claims to the land, businesses and homes stolen from them by Israel from 1947 onward by stating that the nation state of Israel has a right to exist as Jewish Only. Even the charter written up by the United Nations in 1947 states otherwise. As a condition of statehood Zionists were given a specific area of land and the leaders agreed to create a constitution within six months that guaranteed equal rights and status to all living in the land without prejudice as to race, origin, sex or faith.

More than sixty years later, Israel continues to violate the agreement creating it. Israel still doesn't have a constitution; it ignored the boundaries given it in 1947 and has yet to set its borders. And Israel still hasn't granted equal rights to non-Jews or Jews of Arabic descent. The state reneged on each major promise it made to the world community in exchange for its independence.

Secondly, to `recognize Israel's right to exists as Jewish only', which is what is required, immediately dehumanizes anyone who is not Jewish. This new requirement emerged from the Camp David Accords as a stalling method. It is a requirement no nation can accommodate, and the state of Israel knows this. A nation is a group of people with a common culture, such as the Nation of Islam, the Nation of Israel or the Cherokee Nation. All nations have a right to exist and no one, including Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah or any other current target of Israel has stated otherwise, nor would they. To state such would violate the faith of all three major religions in the region.