TylerMC/iran

From the Page:
Israel's public security minister warned Saturday that a U.S. intelligence report that said Iran is no longer developing nuclear arms could lead to a regional war that would threaten the Jewish state.

In his remarks -- Israel's harshest criticism yet of the U.S. report -- Avi Dichter said the assessment also cast doubt on American intelligence in general, including information about Palestinian security forces' crackdown on militant groups. The Palestinian action is required as part of a U.S.-backed renewal of peace talks with Israel this month.---

My response to the people in Israel pushing this insanity?

You guys are F--king unbelievable. Grow up and join the rest of humanity Israel.
We're not dying for you anymore!
We're not fighting your wars for you anymore!
We're not paying for your idiocy anymore!
We're not listening to your whining and complaining and propaganda and racism and hatred anymore.
Grow up and start getting along with the rest of the world Israel. You're not hated because of the faith you claim you represent. You're disliked intensely for exactly this type of self-centered, hypocritical, deadly dogma. People hate you for your disgusting policies and incessant whining. Grow up Israel. Or get out of the world community. Iran isn't a threat to you. They haven't attacked a single nation in their 100 year history that didn't attack it first.
On the other hand Israel...How many nations and people and regions have you attacked that haven't attacked you first? That would be every single war you've been in except 1973. Who exactly is the threat again Israel? Look in the mirror. The threat is YOU! So shut and learn how to get along with your neighbors. Your not the center of the universe. But you are a big problem because you choose to be a problem. GROW UP or shut up.

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That felt good. Seriously, this is getting ridiculous. This little state in the Middle East is out to kill more people and they want to use the American people to do it again. It is time we stopped playing their game. They can call us what they want. If it saves lives, let them whine, libel and slander but we have got to stop letting this crazy country dictate and destroy the lives of millions simply because it feels 'uncomfortable'. It ends now.

I'm really hoping that nobody is stupid enough to fall for this. The neocons are at their wits end because their grand plans for a complete Middle East makeover are being exposed. Bruce Reidel is a Senior Fellow at the Saban Center on Middle East Policy at the Brookings Institution. He is a Zionist, part of the Israel Lobby and a neocon. His purpose is to convince you that no matter what evidence is presented, Iran must be overthrown. They are using the exact same excuses, the exact same tactics, the exact same arguments and the exact same lies as were applied to Iraq. The late Jude Wanninski did an excellent job exposing all of these in his essay (80 pages and interview) republished in the book NeoConned.

Reidel's interests are in maintaining Israeli superiority in the Middle East economically, commercially, technologically and militarily. And like all neocons, might is right and any form of diplomacy is wrong. Ignore him. He's part of the problem and this story along with others in the Washington Post, New York Times and various MSM's are designed to cast doubt on the study and its conclusions. But you'll notice they never offer anything concrete, substantial or factual. They quote each other (AEI, JINSA, WINEP, Brookings, Saben, Heritage etc...) but that's not really research. That's recycling. Head over to IRmep.org, Washington Report on Middle Eastern Affairs, Council for the National Interest or just listen to Scott Ritter speak for fifteen minutes. This article is propaganda pure and simple. Don't fall for it.

The disgusting parade occurring in America today over the President of Iran's visit is 100% orchestrated by the Israel Lobby. I'm on several of their more prominent advocacy lists and the talking points across the board are the same: Amadinejad is a 'Holocaust Denier' who 'Threatens to wipe Israel off the face of the earth'.

Point number one. This man has NEVER denied the German Holocaust. What he has said is that it is being used as an excuse to perpetuate further genocide on another people. The conference he held in January of this year was to discuss how to cut through the crap generated by using this historical event as an excuse and cover for further atrocities.

Second point. He never threatened to 'wipe Israel off the map'. However he did say Israel's Zionist government, a racist, fascist regime steeped in Jewish supremacy does need to be eliminated. That's a far cry from removing a nation. And I agree with him. There is no room on this planet for racist prima donnas.

Finally, if one sits down and looks at the oppressive laws of Judaism, the dogma central to many aspects of Fundamental Christianity and the same instances with extreme versions of Islam, you'll find the same oppression of rights in all three and the same oppression advocated by the leading hawks in each faith whether we're speaking about Orthodox Jews, Orthodox Muslims or Right Wing Christians.

What I've seen is a President of a nation that has no desire to go to war with any other nation and has bent over backwards in an attempt to reason with unreasonable people, (US and Israel). In 100 years of existence Iran has NEVER attacked a nation that hasn't attacked it first. Israel and the United States can't say that. The United States has instigated over 200 acts of war and invasions just between 1941 and 2001. With the exception of 1973, Israel has started every war its been in either directly or through its actions. Who is the bigger threat to the world? I'd say #1, my nation the United States. #2 Israel...but only because we protect it. Without that protection, Israel would begin behaving like a regular nation. Iran...doesn't even figure into the picture except that it challenges Israel economically and for this reason, Israel can't live with it. This whole thing disgusts me. The President of Iran has made every effort to act in a diplomatic and humane way with us and we're the problem, not them.

When Israel became a state, the then newly minted Mossad went into the surrounding Arab countries and began black flag operations to scare the Arab Jews into moving to Israel. This worked well in Iraq and some of the North African nations. The leaders were also persuaded financially and through favors to help nudge the Jews into Israel and encourage them to abandon their property. Zionist propaganda then stated they were 'forced out', something proven not to be wholly true.
These non-white Jews (Semitic) then became Israel's laborers, second class citizens to the white Jews of Europe and they were treated badly by the ruling white class, (and are still discriminated against today thou nowhere as badly as the non-Jewish people of Israel). Iran's Persian Jews are well aware of the fate awaiting them if they emigrate to Israel and they are treated well and as equals in Iran. The fact that they don't want to go to Israel is a source of major frustration to the Zionists.
But frankly, knowing what Israel is, a racist state, why would any person with morality want to go there? You can bet this will not be mentioned in the US.

Okay...some reason, (I'm trying to catch up on all my reading).

Jeff puts it best:

"A number of prognosticators critical of US policy and an article in Russia's Novosti claim that the US will attack Iran by next weekend. I have been one of those who have long questioned whether the US, given its failures in Iraq, was in any position to attack Iran despite Washington's sabre rattling and the shrill demands of Jewish lobby hawks. According to this article, they seemed to have returned to their safe perches."-JB

I first became aware of this last Friday when a source forwarded me the following article: Operation Bite: April 6 sneak attack by US forces against Iran planned, Russian military sources warn By Webster G. Tarpley Online Journal Contributing Writer Mar 26, 2007.
Since I had not vetted it, my response was, 'Not yet I haven't but I wouldn't put anything past these guys. The US however as a Christian nation would never attack on Good Friday. That is the day Jesus was killed by the Romans. The US wouldn't do this on these days and as Passover is the day before, I'm not sure Israel would either but I do believe we are planning to attack in one way or another."

He responded: "This is very sad, but well. I expect anything to happen. what makes Iraqis slaughter Saddam on Eid Al Adha, a day when all Muslim nations slaughter animals for Eid, and then in this day, it was Saddam who was slaughtered, anyhow, anything is possible. but I hope this will not happen. if it does, then we are all losing. I don't know what Bush and Olmert will gain from this war, more destruction and hatred between nations."

After having the weekend to think about this I sent the following back:
If the US invades Iran or even does an air campaign against that nation you'll be witnessing the final nail in our coffin. We will cease to be a world power within thirty years. The Jerusalem Post ran a story on this over the weekend as well.
Iran is not a threat to the United States militarily. It isn't even a threat to Israel if Israel would stop messing around with the affairs of its neighbors and start behaving like the democratic republic it likes to pretend it is.
It is a threat to both nations financially. Right now the dollar is the monetary unit of trade for oil in the world. (Saddam was preparing to switch to the Euro in 2000 which is the primary reason we attacked him. He wouldn't play our game anymore. This is also why Chavez in Venezuela is being set up for civil war and demonized in the US media).

If Iran, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia and other nations switched to another currency, the deficit in America would come due. Currently we owe about 8 trillion dollars (due to Bush's wars) and this would destroy our economy, sending us into a spiral, depression and put millions out of work. It also means that those people in the world who control finances would lose much of their net worth and control over various world economies, debt and of course the people of those nations.

The second factor is control of the Oil. Both China and India continue to grow rapidly. If the US and Israel, (Israel get's first draws on our oil reserves even if we need them) control the governments of the oil producing nations, we control who gets the oil and at what price. This also means we control how fast other economies grow, what products are produced and what can be exported or imported from any nation. The use of tariffs and trade restrictions coupled with high debt further shore up this financial noose forcing emerging economies to scale back on social development, education and other domestic programs to service the debts.

Iran and Venezuela want to control their own resources and put the profits back into their own countries. This cuts out the US, Israel, Britain and other monetary interests who typically siphon off the profits from natural resources, pay the elites in the countries of origin and then kick back to their own nations leaving the countries with the resources severely depleted financially and economically.

Don't you just love it when the bad guys f==k up? This is a prime example that shows collusion and all kinds of nasty little things being done by the Israel Lobby working with our own John Bolton. Who is he representing again? I keep forgetting.

And this is how we got it:
On Bolton's Extremism and the Israel Lobby's support of Bolton, please look here.

We are releasing a transcript of conference call with John Bolton, former US Ambassador to the United Nations, and AIPAC, specifically the "American Zionist Call Club" members of AIPAC.

Source: Originally from Pamela Geller Oshry, of "Atlas Shrugs", a pro-AIPAC, right-wing Blog. We thank her for her valuable, if unintended assistance. She freely posted this recording on her website (later to remove it at AIPAC's insistence), featuring it with pride -- we listened and now share its contents with you. We feel it would be valuable for people to learn what John Bolton had to say.

Below is a smaller 2 minute very candid expression of Bolton's view of U.N. resolutions against Iran that were demanded by the U.S. We also have a audio clip of that portion of the conversation. Check that out here: track.websiteceo.com/r/182488/www.stopaipac.org/bolton_iran.mp3 [track.websiteceo.com/r/182488/www.stopaipac.org/bolton_iran.mp3]

Transcript of that portion:

Former Ambassador Bolton: "Let me turn now to the question of Iran and what I think the situation is there. The Security Council just passed a resolution. The resolution that the Security Council passed at the end of last month imposing certain limited sanctions on Iran, obviously the product of a long effort based on Iran's refusal to comply with the earlier Security Council resolution that gave them until August 31st to cease their uranium enrichment activities. I'd have to say because I'm a private citizen and therefore a free man again, and these are my personal views, now, that this sanctions resolution is very disappointing. It is not as tough as I would have liked to have seen it. In many respects the Russians did an outstanding job from their point of view in protecting Iran, in narrowing the scope of the sanctions, in limiting the effectiveness, I think, of many of the things that we wanted to try and do to prevent the Iranians from continuing to make progress on their nuclear and ballistic missile programs.

I think the Iranian reaction to the sanctions resolution has been very telling in that respect, although they've passed a resolution in parliament to re-evaluate their relation with the International Atomic Energy Agency, they have not rejected the sanctions resolution, they have not done anything more dramatic, such as withdrawing from the nonproliferation treaty, or throwing out inspectors of the International Atomic Energy Agency, which I actually hoped they would do - that that kind of reaction would produce a counter-reaction that actually would be more beneficial to us."

On Bolton's Extremism and the Israel Lobby's support of Bolton, please look here: stopaipac.org/bolton.htm [stopaipac.org/bolton.htm]

BTW: American intelligence states Iran is at least 10 years off from Nuclear Weapons. As Scott Ritter said yesterday at the meeting I attended in Escondido, "Every nation without nuclear weapons is 10 years off" meaning, he elaborated. They don't have them and aren't anywhere close to getting them.

Considering only Zionists and neocons are continuing to push for an attack on Iran, they will get the backlash and they'll deserve it.

And when are they going to cease misquoting Iran's President? He didn't say he wanted to wipe Israel off the map. He said that there needed to be regime change in Jerusalem...just like 2000 years ago! And according to International Law and the agreement made in 1947 by the Zionist leaders, he's right.

Here's the real reason Iran is being targeted. According to Jonathan Cook's article in the March issue of the Washington Report, "In November (2006) Ephraim Sneh, one of Israel's most distinguished generals and now Olmert's deputy defense minister, revealed that the government's primary concern was not the threat posed by Ahmadinejad firing nuclear missiles at Israel but the effect of Iran's possession of such weapons on Jews who expect Israel to have a monopoly on the nuclear threat.

If Iran got such weapons, "Most Israelis would prefer not to live here; most Jews would prefer not to come here with families and Israelis who can live abroad will. I am afraid Ahmadinejad will be able to kill the Zionist dream without pushing a button. that is why we must prevent this regime from obtaining nuclear capability at all costs."--from the article 'The Trap to recognizing Israel', pg 19, March 2007 issue of the Washington Report on Middle Eastern Affairs.

Pardon me while I throw up.

Cook's article is the first explaination that makes sense. Israel obcesses about its demographic purity and need for Jewish Only living space (like other past regimes that interned, stole property and persecuted other people because of their faith). Gaza was put under siege via a mock withdrawl so Israel could pretend the 1.4 million non-Jewish people didn't upset their racist aspirations. Consistently in their press, the Palestinians are referred to as a 'demographic bomb'. The Israelis worry more about others contaminating thier 'pure culture' than the Nazis did!

So what the full court press to bomb Iran boils down to is that Israel is willing to kill thousands of Americans, Iranians, British and others so that it can convince Jews not to move out of Israel.

How selfish, self-centered and elitist can one people be? I never cease to be amazed at the depths this little nation will slither and slide to in order to maintain its racism, hatred and racial purity.

Now the only question is, how do we stop these self-centered idiots from dragging the rest of us into a war that is completely unnecessary and against everything decent people, not blinded by elitist racism throughout the world of all faiths (Including the Jewish faith) uphold as standards of humanity?

God please, save us from these people's racism and self-centered hatred before they kill us all!