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prettyboyredneckJul 10, 2008 6:15am
"My appeal was for the moral content of his message to not only deal with the personal and moral responsibility of black males, but to deal with the collective moral responsibility of government and the public policy which would be a corrective action for the lack of good choices that often led to their irresponsibility.''

It is the gubments "RESPONSIBILITY" to take corrective action for an individuals lack of good choices, where is that in the constitution?

Is it the lack of good choices that leads to irresponsibility, or is it more likely that irresponsibility leads to lack of good choices?

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prettyboyredneckJul 10, 2008 7:20am
Its a direct quote not a loaded question. If a black person says something stupid, to question it is not racist.

It is the gubments "RESPONSIBILITY" to take corrective action for an individuals lack of good choices, where is that in the constitution?

Is it the lack of good choices that leads to irresponsibility, or is it more likely that irresponsibility leads to lack of good choices?


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usmjamJul 10, 2008 7:23am
Its a question of liberties versus gubmint control. A free state vs a totalitarian state. And it all starts with the idea of free society vs a welfare state.

Once the government was viewed as the guardian of the individual's welfare, that role of authority over choices was naturally shifted to said government. Responsibility of government then seems to take on bigger and unconstitutional proportions. That is exactly what big brother and all totalitarian governments allege, that they are working for the common good.

Responsibility for choices made by individuals, or even states, was never intended by the founding fathers. The idea of the federal government as responsible for our choices started in seemingly necessary issues such as slavery in the days of the civil war, and the socialist programs of FDR during the depression and WW2, two of the worst presidents as far as freedom from federal tyranny.

Today the tyranny is helped by seemingly polar opposites. Special interest groups of all types are crying for the government to address their agendas. It may have seemed like a good idea where racism and economic oppression was found. But somehow we let those issues morph the federal government into the role of "the decider".


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prettyboyredneckJul 10, 2008 7:31am
I have a philosophical question.

If a black person makes a regrettable unintelligent comment in a forest, is it still racist to question it if there is no Lib to defend it?


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WasChabadJul 10, 2008 7:33am
#2 Another racially motivated loaded question by PBR.

Your statement is racially motivated. Why do you put down responsible black men? Do you think only black people should be allowed to talk about other black people? All #1 was doing was quoting what black American Barak Obama said. You're just like those stupid black people who called Bill Cosby an Uncle Tom for telling the truth. Get off your darn high horse!

I'm sure you would call it something negative if I had said Barak Hussein Obama while saying Hillary Rodham Clinton is ok.


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OgminJul 10, 2008 7:37am
5: If a white person asks loaded questions in a forum and no one is interested in responding, is it okay to throw him out?

6: Obama never said that.

By the way, black folks who disagree with Cosby are not necessarily stupid.

I love the tone in here...


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prettyboyredneckJul 10, 2008 7:47am
How is either question loaded? Both questions are based on a direct quote.

Is that just what libs call questions they don't like or can't answer?

It was not BHO it was a quote from Jesse Jackson about BHO.

italian-scallionJul 10, 2008 7:48am
I'm not voting for either candidate. Enjoy your partisan bickering.


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prettyboyredneckJul 10, 2008 7:54am
Voting for either candidate and race are both irrelevant to whether or not it is the gubments responsibility to take corrective action for an individuals lack of good choices.


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