I agree that Israel does sickeningly awful things. But just because WasChabad disagrees with you, there is no reason to think that she is playing stupid, which would have no real purpose. She disagrees, so I think rather than dismissing her, you should ADDRESS HER SPECIFIC POINTS about Canada, etc.
Thank you #11. Israel is alot nicer to the Palestinians than the Canadians or Americans were to the Native Americans. It is easier to dismiss me than to answer my questions. Don't hold Israel to a higher moral standard than Canada or the US. Jordan killed 10,000 Palestinians in one month. Don't hold Israel to a higher moral standard than Jordan.
Now to my original question. Since my grandfather was born in Palestine, all of his children and grandchildren are Palestinian refugees. Would you consider me Palestinian?
11: I'd like to know which of her points you think need to be addressed. In my view they smack of deliberate sophistry. I don't think she is interested in debate.
The only moral standard to which Israel comes close is somewhere between South Africa and Nazi Germany. Israel is a barbaric anachronism considering that its apologists has to hold it to the standards of typical colonialism as practised centuries ago, which Canada and the US have long repudiated.
As for WC's question, she was apparently neither born in Palestine nor in a refugee camp, and doesn't give allegiance to the Palestinians nor even sympathises with them.
14: Israel is substantially more horrific than Canada. Israel is less horrific than the U.S.
15: I just meant that you should offer a rebuttal her Canada argument, address her comments about Palestinians harassing Christians, etc, instead of dismissing them as "YOU KNOW Israel is a racist state" etc.
And as horrific as many of Israel's actions are, they cannot be compared to Nazi Germany and Hitler's deliberate plan, as expressed in Mein Kampf, to exterminate all of the Jews. He killed 6 million of them, along with 4 million other minorities - homosexuals, gypsies, disabled persons, etc.
Undeniably, Canada committed genocide, so did the US. I'm not claiming Canada's past actions gives it moral authority, especially as right now it supports Israel. But I can't be held personally responsible for actions that were committed before I was born, which I condemn, as well as the deafening lack of discussion of this in the media in light of the recent apology over the residential schools.
WC's points about Canada, if not conscious propaganda, are purely delusional. North American colonialism was done centuries ago when it was considered the norm; Israeli colonialism is anachronistic and ongoing despite worldwide condemnation.
Show me the passage in the Mein Kampf where Hitler planned to exterminate the Jews. I took a history class in Genocides. The prevailing theory is that the Nazis had planned to relocate the Jews, not exterminate them, which came during the war.
By the way, I said 'somewhere between South Africa and Nazi Germany'. What Israel has been doing to the Palestinians is no less than a slow genocide. That same Zionist regime had no qualms whatsoever with irradiating hundreds of thousands of Sephardic Jewish children in the 50s.
I agree with you regarding Canada and old vs. modern colonialism.
But fuck you regarding Mein Kampf. It is universally known that Hitler's plan was to massacre all of the Jews. He and the Nazi regime massacred 6 million of them. Was this by accident? Did it just "come about during the war?" You sick fucktard.
Are you glad the Holocaust occurred? I wouldn't be surprised, you fuckstain.
Planned to relocate, not exterminate the Jews? Where the fucking shit did you hear that?
"is the term generally used to describe the genocide of approximately six million European Jews during World War II, as part of a program of deliberate extermination planned and executed by the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazi) regime in Germany led by Adolf Hitler.[2]"
Fuck you. It was a deliberate plan by all accounts.
What the fuck are you talking about? Are you trying to portray me as a Holocaust denier? I am saying what I learned in class. How is killing millions of Jews any less of a genocide if it wasn't planned in the Mein Kampf? Don't stoop to that kind of intellectual dishonesty.
That the Nazis were planning to relocate the Jews to Madagascar is a matter of mainstream historical record.
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